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actually a better order of introduction might be going from ASSA, and then UD. that's how paul does it [https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/QmWNbCRMgRBcMK6RK/the-absolute-self-selection-assumption here]: the idea is, first we leave the measure unspecified. and we say that how likely we are to experience an OM is the measure of that OM under some measure. finally at the end, we decide that UD would be a fine measure to use here.
 
actually a better order of introduction might be going from ASSA, and then UD. that's how paul does it [https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/QmWNbCRMgRBcMK6RK/the-absolute-self-selection-assumption here]: the idea is, first we leave the measure unspecified. and we say that how likely we are to experience an OM is the measure of that OM under some measure. finally at the end, we decide that UD would be a fine measure to use here.
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here's an alternative that paul mentions, just to show something different so that you know udassa is doing something different: we could have used the measure to find the probability of each world. then in each world, we could find all the OMs (within each world, we weigh each OM equally).
  
 
so what does UDASSA get us? make decisions; explain anthropics; ...
 
so what does UDASSA get us? make decisions; explain anthropics; ...

Revision as of 21:50, 8 March 2020

UDASSA (sometimes also written UD+ASSA to make the two components clear) is a theory of anthropics.

Etymology

The name "UDASSA" comes from "universal distribution + absolute self-selection assumption".

History

Description

i think it's useful to compare UDASSA to solomonoff induction first. what does solomonoff induction tell us? it takes in some bit string, and then gives you a probability distribution over the next bit, i.e. it takes in some data and then predicts what you're likely to see.

udassa makes use of the universal distribution (the same one that solomonoff induction uses). so how is it different? well, in udassa, instead of interpreting the bit strings as just "abstract objects" or "camera inputs that a robot sees", we instead interpret them as "observer moments". how is this even possible? well, if you take a snapshot of your brain at the current moment, and then scan it/encode it in some standard format, you get some long sequence of bits. so we can take an observer moment and convert it to some bit string. the probability that this bit string appears in the universal distribution is the "measure" of that observer moment. so that's the UD part.

what's the ASSA part? i think the ASSA part just says that this measure under the UD is how likely we are to experience that OM.

actually a better order of introduction might be going from ASSA, and then UD. that's how paul does it here: the idea is, first we leave the measure unspecified. and we say that how likely we are to experience an OM is the measure of that OM under some measure. finally at the end, we decide that UD would be a fine measure to use here.

here's an alternative that paul mentions, just to show something different so that you know udassa is doing something different: we could have used the measure to find the probability of each world. then in each world, we could find all the OMs (within each world, we weigh each OM equally).

so what does UDASSA get us? make decisions; explain anthropics; ...

so how can we use UDASSA to make decisions? well, i'm slightly confused here myself. i can think of two possibilities:

  • define some relevant reference class, like "human observer moments".
  • you don't define a reference class. instead, you just define some utility function. and it's the utility function that defines what matters and what doesn't. for example, there will be an observer moment that corresponds to the integer 3. and it's a really simple OM, so it will have high measure! but we don't care about it, so the utility function will just ignore it.

Comparison to UDT

Does UDASSA give any different decisions from UDT? i think one example might be https://riceissa.github.io/everything-list-1998-2009/14037.html where UDT seems to give the intuitively-correct answer, but UDASSA doesn't.

See also

References